Re: Caching driver on pgFoundry?

From: Dave Cramer <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com>
To: Kris Jurka <books(at)ejurka(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Caching driver on pgFoundry?
Date: 2007-09-05 18:00:01
Message-ID: 8FD2948B-9513-4611-9310-908CA253EECD@fastcrypt.com
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On 5-Sep-07, at 1:27 PM, Kris Jurka wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
>>> Can't you use DBCP or some other open source statement cache
>>> implementation that's in a more mature state?
>>
>> Unfortunately, no. The benchmark is already out.
>>
>
> But that benchmark was run with a different caching implementation
> than the wrapper version, so I'm not sure how that's relevant.
> When Sun chose to use unpublished and unreviewed code for the
> benchmark they got themselves in a little bind and I'm not sure
> it's our job to bail them out by publishing and advertising code
> that we're not confident in. Heikki, Oliver, and myself did not
> believe the code used by Sun in the benchmark was correct in the
> general case so it was rejected for inclusion in the core driver.

So as I understand it the objection to the caching implementation is
that statement caching belongs in the app server ?

If this is the case then I would argue that having caching in the
appserver is a great idea for everyone using an appserver it does not
help the rest of the world that doesn't use an app server.

Is there a technical argument here ?

Dave

> Dave/Lazlo have since started a new implemention on pgfoundry, but
> that was never discussed with the JDBC list or submitted for
> inclusion.
>
> To satisfy the benchmark requirements, Sun should publish the code/
> driver actually used in the benchmark somewhere on Sun's website
> and, if honest, should recommend that people don't use it. From
> there we should try to gather some consensus on whether PG needs
> its own statement cache implementation and then rerun the
> benchmarks with it or some other implementation.
>
> Kris Jurka
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