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Re: damage control mode

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: damage control mode
Date: 2010-01-12 02:35:38
Message-ID: 603c8f071001111835q63bf3c19lb2ecae6a85c9096e@mail.gmail.com (view raw or flat)
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On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> Robert Haas wrote:
>> The consensus view on this thread seems to be that we should have a
>> time-based code freeze, but not a time-based release.  No one has
>> argued (and I sincerely hope no one will argue) that we should let the
>> last CommitFest drag on and on, as we did for 8.4.  However, many
>> people are still eager to see us commit more large patches even though
>> they know that there are stop-ship issues in CVS HEAD as a result of
>> Hot Standby, and despite the fact that committing more large patches
>> will likely add more such issues.  So, barring the possibility that we
>> somehow pull a collective rabbit out of our hat, we will NOT be ready
>> for beta on March 1.  I have not yet given up hope on April 1, but I
>> wouldn't bet on it, either.
>
> I think the big issue with 8.4 was, do we close the commit-fest when we
> have open issues, and we aren't clear on how to fix them?  A lot of
> unresolve issues get kept for that pre-beta period because all of a
> sudden we have to resolve all those complex problems.  I don't see that
> changing for 8.5.

I agree we have some complex issue to work out.  What I disagree with
is waiting until the last CommitFest is over to start working on them.
 I think we should be talking about them now and divvying them up.

> What amazes me is how many people who closely follow our development are
> mystified by what we do during that pre-beta period.

Hey, I'm still mystified.  Maybe you and Tom could do twice-a-week
status updates on what you're working on and anything you could use
help with, or something.

...Robert

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