Re: Top five challenges

From: silly sad <sad(at)bestmx(dot)ru>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Top five challenges
Date: 2011-03-10 16:53:55
Message-ID: 4D790223.3020800@bestmx.ru
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On 03/10/11 19:45, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> silly sad wrote:
>> On 03/10/11 19:01, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>>>> Excerpts from sad's message of mi? mar 02 10:23:53 -0300 2011:
>>>>> On Mar 2 2011, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. To make TIMESTAMPTZ useful by introducing proper type cast
>>>>>>> TIMESTAMPTZ to TIMESTAMP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are you using Timestamp-no-tz at all? I was thinking we should
>>>>>> change the default ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did u introduced it?
>>>>
>>>> The standard requires the current behavior. It's not going to change.
>>>> It changed in 7.1 or so.
>>>
>>> And we document why the default is so odd:
>>>
>>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/datatype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-TIMEZONES
>>>
>>> Note: The SQL standard requires that writing just timestamp be
>>> equivalent to timestamp without time zone, and PostgreSQL honors that
>>> behavior. (Releases prior to 7.3 treated it as timestamp with time
>>> zone.)
>>
>> do you document why 'epoch'::timestamp is not the true 'epoch' unless
>> timezone is not GMT?
>>
>> if you mention any timestamp except 'epoch' it will be interpreted
>> correctly taking in account timezone setting.
>
> Well, 'epoch' clearly is a point in time with the hour being midnight at
> GMT, so I don't see a problem with epoch making such an adjustment:

great! the flexible epoch!

when do want to point an epoch to?
just set timezone and enjoy.

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