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Re: When to hold Pg East

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Greg Smith <gsmith(at)gregsmith(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Subject: Re: When to hold Pg East
Date: 2008-12-11 10:14:43
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Robert Treat wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 20:02:16 Josh Berkus wrote:
>>> You also might want to throw a disclaimer into the date area that voting
>>> for "Late May" would still respect the PGCon schedule.  As the second
>>> mover here, I think your only viable options here are snuggling up next
>>> to it (East on May {15/}16/17 would open an interesting combo trip
>>> possibility for long distance travellers, PHL->YYZ is a quick flight),
>>> or staying clear of that period altogether.
> 
> PHL->YYZ might be a quick flight, but pgcon is in ottowa (aka yow), not 
> toronto. (In fairness I think PHL->YOW isnt too bad, though it will make it 
> harder to get a direct flight)
> 
>> Making it back-to-back with pgCon would make things easier on speakers.
> 
> really? for most people, first you have to work out how to get to Philly, and 
> then work out how to get from there to Ottowa, and then get back to some 
> place other than Philly, which makes getting arragements that much more 
> difficult.  Unless east was actually in Ottowa, I think this makes things 
> harder. 

In a lot of cases it would. It would also mean you're away from the
office two weeks in a row, instead of two weeks with work in between.
Which may be a whole lot harder to manage.

It would help a bit with the travel time for long distance, yes, but
it's not a huge difference. And I guess it helps a little bit with the
travel cost, but again not all that much. But those are in my experience
often not the problem - the problem is being away from the office.


>>   However, it would likely decrease both attendence and sponsorships for
>> each conference.

Agreed.


> Amazing how that problem keeps coming up... I can't wait till jdcon gives up 
> its stubborness and moves itself to the other side of the calendar...
> 

Finding some sort of "even spread" of the dates for larger PostgreSQL
conferences would certainly be much better. Having -west right before
pgday.eu was a bad move, IMHO. Having -east right next to pgcon would be
another one.

We have an events page on the wiki
(http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Events). How about we add an indicator
(column or color) for "postgresql major" events or something (right now,
I'd list FOSDEM and pgcon on the list - but I don't know the details
about the others). That would give a good overview of how well spread
out these are...

//Magnus

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