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Re: WHAT to push to internet

From: Susanne Ebrecht <miracee(at)miracee(dot)de>
To: Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <ads(at)pgug(dot)de>
Cc: Cédric Villemain <cedric(dot)villemain(at)dalibo(dot)com>,PostgreSQL EU <pgeu-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: WHAT to push to internet
Date: 2008-02-26 10:21:25
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Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum schrieb:
> Hello all,
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 08:57:27PM +0100, Cédric Villemain wrote:
>   
>> Add  other items of your choice :)
>>     
>
> Not that i want to stop your zest for action ;-)
> But we don't have a website, we don't have a layout, no content and no 
> CMS yet.
>
> Maybe we should have this discussion in a week or two, because we surely 
> will have this discussion again the time we start a website.
>   

Andreas,

No.
I think, all technical stuff is clear since months. We really should 
start to upload a webpage. Somebody should start with the first page, 
that the others can help and put the content.

The only questions that were left are:
1) what should we put on the web page
2) how can we realise the project that not everybody who wants to 
write/upload content has to type hundreds of HTML code.

We talked about the content here and on IRC and I think, it is clear now.

The only thing what we need now is somebody, who is making the layout 
and load it up (ask mastermind/egesch about how to upload).

I am not a very good designer and I would just put the blue bar with the 
elephant logo on the top.

We don't need to finish all content before the webpage is online. We 
need the first page and then we can fill the other stuff.

And when nobody will start with this page during the next days, I really 
will ask Bruce for the dancing elephant.

It's just painful that we didn't be able to have a web page after one year.

Better a not fully designed web page then no web page.

Somebody really should make the layout and prepare the links (like 
about, history and so on). The links can show place holders during the 
first days. I am pretty sure, when we have the first page, the others 
(like me) can get active and fill the links with content.

Nobody of us can put content on a non existing page without knowledge 
about the content.

I get the feeling, that nobody will start before we end discussion. But 
that is the wrong way at the moment.
Somebody should start now.

At the end it doesn't matter what system we use. We have clear rules 
what we need and what we want:

We need a web presentation.
The used tool should be easy to use because we want that more then one 
person is able to add content.

This can easy be realised by simple HTML + cvs. But I think there are 
tools that avoid that everybody who wants to add content has to code all 
this HTML.

We don't need a wiki at the moment, we can implement that stuff later.

What pages do we need?

1) Starting page
2) News
3) About
3.1) History
4) Events (maybe a calender would be nice here)
4.1) Slides from events
5) Community corner
5.1) Who is who?
5.2) Photos (links to the photo galleries)
6) Donation corner (here we can put the sponsors)
 7) Contact

When somebody starts with the layout and put a pink dancing elephant as 
placeholder and tell me what I have to do then I can add the content for 
1-3.1, 4.1, 5.1 and 7.

But we really need somebody who starts and make the layout. Don't we 
really have no web designers?

If the designer use a tool, this tool should be open source and platform 
independent and easy to use.
Consider plain HTML is more easy to use for me as a weird wiki syntax :)

Platform independent can be a web based tool or something, where you 
just have to put the content into a database and the pages will be 
generated from the database via automatism. Everybody of us should be 
able to do something like this:
psql -u -h hostname -p port -c "insert into cnt_tab(cnt) values('abc')" 
dbname

But the decision, which tools will be used are the decision of the 
designer. It doesn't matter if he will use Zope or something else. The 
only condition he has is that the tool should be easy to use for others 
who don't know the tool. No weird wiki syntax for example.

And of course only trusted ppl should get access to add/modify content.

Please, if there is a guy outside who is able to make a web design, 
please just start.
You will always get complains so it doesn't matter if you wait until we 
all are 90 years old or start immediately. :)

Best Regards,

Susanne

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