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Re: Feature freeze progress report

From: Zdenek Kotala <Zdenek(dot)Kotala(at)Sun(dot)COM>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Feature freeze progress report
Date: 2007-04-30 13:10:31
Message-ID: 4635EAC7.5040903@sun.com (view raw or flat)
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Dave Page wrote:
> Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>>> This means that there is a huge rush of new code in pgAdmin's
>>> development cycle, right at the time when we should be testing - making
>>> the release process more and more rushed as each release of PostgreSQL
>>> gets more efficient and adds more and more new features.
>> this is indeed an issue - but there is nothing that says that pgadminIII
>> has to support all the new features of a backend the they it get
>> released. pgadmin is decoupled from the min development cycle anyway so
>> adding support for a new features a few months later sounds not too much
>> an issue.
> 
> No it's not decoupled; it runs almost exactly in sync. Our most popular
> platform ships with pgAdmin as standard because thats what the users of
> that platform expect. Not shipping with pgAdmin (or a functionally
> complete one) would be like shipping SQL Server without Enterprise Manager.

And also from another point of view Postgres and related version of 
PgAdmin must fit in same release cycle windows of OS distributions. When 
OS release is out new feature is not usually accepted and OS should be 
shipped with old version pgAdmin.

And bigger problem then new feature in pgAdmin is 
pg_upgrade/pg_migrator. Upgrade procedure must be finished at same time 
as new release, but some upgrade functions are possible coding only 
after feature freeze or when all affected patches are committed.

If we want to have this feature (upgrade) in postgres we would adjust 
release cycle anyway.

		Zdenek

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