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Re: Feature thought: idle in transaction timeout

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Russell Smith <mr-russ(at)pws(dot)com(dot)au>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Feature thought: idle in transaction timeout
Date: 2007-04-03 01:59:29
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Added to TODO:
> 
> 	* Add idle_timeout GUC so locks are not held for log periods of time
> 

That should actually be transaction_idle_timeout. It is o.k. for us to 
be IDLE... it is not o.k. for us to be IDLE in Transaction


Joshua D. Drake



> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> "Joshua D. Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> writes:
>>> Russell Smith wrote:
>>>> I agree with this, it reduces the long running transaction problem a 
>>>> little where the user forgot to commit/rollback their session.  I may be 
>>>> worth having a transaction_timeout as well, and setting it to link a few 
>>>> hours by default.  That way you can't have really long running 
>>>> transactions unless you specifically set that.
>>> We would certainly need to be able to disable on the fly too just with 
>>> SET as well.
>> AFAICS, a *transaction* timeout per se has no use whatever except as a
>> foot-gun.  How will you feel when you start a 12-hour restore, go home
>> for the evening, and come back in the morning to find it aborted because
>> you forgot to disable your 4-hour timeout?
>>
>> Furthermore, if you have to set transaction_timeout to multiple hours
>> in the (vain) hope of not killing something important, what use is it
>> really?  If you want to keep VACUUM able to work in a busy database,
>> you need it to be a lot less than that.
>>
>> An *idle* timeout seems less risky, as well as much easier to pick a
>> sane value for.
>>
>> 			regards, tom lane
>>
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