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Re: [HACKERS] Upcoming PG re-releases

From: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Euler Taveira de Oliveira <eulerto(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)br>, Richard Huxton <dev(at)archonet(dot)com>, Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, Magnus Hagander <mha(at)sollentuna(dot)net>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Upcoming PG re-releases
Date: 2005-12-01 17:21:46
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Dave Page wrote:

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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pgsql-www-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org 
>>[mailto:pgsql-www-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier
>>Sent: 01 December 2005 17:01
>>To: Peter Eisentraut
>>Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org; Euler Taveira de Oliveira; 
>>Richard Huxton; Robert Treat; Magnus Hagander; Marc G. 
>>Fournier; pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org; Tom Lane; Andrew Dunstan
>>Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Upcoming PG re-releases
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>>On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
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>>>Am Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2005 11:35 schrieb Euler Taveira 
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>>>>What about an museum.postgresql.org to keep the old releases?
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>>>That gave me a good laugh, but there is something to be 
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>>said about moving all
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>>>no longer supported releases (according to the criteria 
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>>>discussed) to an unmirrored site, say, archive.postgresql.org.
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>>That would be fairly trivial ... let me add it to the 'todo 
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>>take it that it would be safe to relegate the /pub/source/OLD 
>>stuff there 
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>Not so trivial to put behind a web interface or the download tracker
>though. Is it really necessary to have a separate archive downloads
>site? It's not like the old ones get in the way, or cost anything other
>than disk space on the mirrors to store (and I've only ever heard mirror
>admins say how small our site is compared to many others!).
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>Plus of course, weren't we trying to reduce the number of VMs/sites?
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Agreed. I see no virtue in this at all. If we continue to make stuff 
available it must be because someone will need it. I can see that 
happening if some catastrophe happens on an old system, in which case 
the person hunting is likely to need to find it easily and possibly fast.

The network traffic involved in mirroring something that doesn't change 
is usually trivial, and disk space seems to be at most a few $ per Gb 
these days, so surely this is not a resource issue.

cheers

andrew

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