From: | Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: pl/pgsql: END verbosity |
Date: | 2005-06-22 05:29:44 |
Message-ID: | 42B8F748.8060408@samurai.com |
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Tom Lane wrote:
> The long-term point in my mind is that removing syntactical
> redundancy always reduces the ability to detect errors or report
> errors acccurately
Lexical scoping is unambiguous in a language like PL/PgSQL. Since it is
simple to determine whether a given END matches an IF, LOOP, or BEGIN, I
don't see how it would reduce our "ability to detect errors or report
errors accurately".
> Consider for example the possibility that Oracle's next release adds
> some new frammish that can't be duplicated because we chose not to
> distinguish various forms of "END xxx" ...
As lexical scoping is still unambiguous, we could actually add a K_LOOP
/ K_IF token to the input stream, if that would make you happier :) (Of
course I'm not suggesting this -- the point is that as far as the parser
is concerned, we should have precisely the same information for
disambiguating the input as we used to have.)
BTW, I notice that Oracle actually allows:
<<label>>
LOOP
-- ...
END LOOP label;
whereas we don't allow the optional label following END LOOP. Which goes
to my general point: this frammish has existed in PL/SQL for a while,
but it's not as if people are clamoring for us to implement it. I would
wager that most people care about having *equivalent* features to
PL/SQL, not exactly identical syntax. For example, the lack of
autonomous transactions is something people have asked for in the past,
because it *does* make porting PL/SQL applications more difficult. I
can't see anyone losing any sleep because we are slightly more relaxed
about the input we accept.
-Neil
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