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Re: Time to work on Press Release 8.0

From: Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>
To: Chris Travers <chris(at)travelamericas(dot)com>
Cc: Lamar Owen <lowen(at)pari(dot)edu>, olly(at)lfix(dot)co(dot)uk,Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>,"Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>,Dan Langille <dan(at)langille(dot)org>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Time to work on Press Release 8.0
Date: 2004-08-14 17:21:22
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On 8/14/2004 12:34 PM, Chris Travers wrote:

> While you have a valid point from the perspective of the community, I 
> think there is an issue which is legitimate here.  That is that people 
> see the fact that Slony does not come with the PostgreSQL tarball.  From 
> this perspective "we" do not have a "replication" solution.  Like it or 
> not, this is a viewpoint many evaluators have.  To them, this is still a 
> third-party add-on, even though it was developed primarily by core 
> members of the PostgreSQL community.

As said before, if the sourcecode organization (splitting off interfaces 
and other non-server-side tools) has such impact, then it is a bad idea. 
Most users will not download the source tarball. Most users will install 
some sort of package collection provided by their system distribution. 
That was one of the fundamental arguments that people used when we where 
discussing skimming of the PostgreSQL tarball. Following your logic 
would mean we better state in the 8.0 announcement the *removal of all 
language interface other than C*. Because that is what happened. If you 
download the tarball, there is no Perl, Java, C++ or Tcl library. They 
don't come with the PostgreSQL tarball, therefore from your perspective 
"we" do not have "any language support other than C".

Now fortunately, this spartanic tarball isn't what most users will get 
if they select PostgreSQL in their OS distribution installer. So the 
question would rather be *what is our recommendation for package 
maintainers?* That collection is what hopefully most end users will 
experience as the PostgreSQL database product, and that is the picture 
we have to draw in our release announcement.


Jan

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