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Re: Do Petabyte storage solutions exist?

From: "Goulet, Dick" <DGoulet(at)vicr(dot)com>
To: "Bradley Kieser" <brad(at)kieser(dot)net>,"Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "Tony and Bryn Reina" <reina_ga(at)hotmail(dot)com>,<pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Do Petabyte storage solutions exist?
Date: 2004-04-02 18:11:32
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Tom,

	I believe PG's biggest problem is that many third party vendors of any significant size (read that as PeopleSoft, SAP, etc.....) don't support PG and PG as an entity does not have a owner like Oracle, DB2, Sql*Server.  There are other problems with PG as well that I'll admit are no barrier to it doing the job in a particular application, but in others it can become a problem.  I think that the world is changing & that there will always be a place for PG as well as the commercial DB's.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley Kieser [mailto:brad(at)kieser(dot)net]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:47 PM
To: Tom Lane
Cc: Tony and Bryn Reina; pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Do Petabyte storage solutions exist?


Well I for one find it very difficult to choose a DB other than PG and 
do so only under duress. It is really only client demand that drives the 
decision away from PG but like you, I am finding that more and more, PG 
is winning the deal and winning the day. Once the replication and 
ability to place tables and indexes on specified locations is in place, 
it will be even more difficult for anyone to argue for paying a license 
fee IMHO.

I don't find the data size limis of PG a problem and I do develop some 
very large systems so for me personally, PG is largely an unstoppable 
force now.

Tom Lane wrote:

>Bradley Kieser <brad(at)kieser(dot)net> writes:
>  
>
>>No, it isn't. Oracle is expensive but it is also the Rolls Royce, it 
>>seems. I am a strictly OpenSource man so I don't really get into the 
>>pricing thing, but I do know that it is also deal-by-deal and depending 
>>on who and what you are, the prices can vary.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm fairly sure that Oracle's pricing scales with the iron you plan to
>use: the more or faster CPUs you want to run it on, the more you pay.
>A large shop can easily get into the $100K license range, but Oracle
>figures that they will have spent way more than that on their hardware.
>
>The trouble with this theory is that as hardware prices fall, Oracle is
>collecting a larger and larger share of people's IT budgets.  That's why
>we are seeing more and more interest in open-source DBs ...
>
>			regards, tom lane
>
>  
>

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