From: | Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org>, Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>, Vince Vielhaber <vev(at)michvhf(dot)com>, Ron Mayer <ron(at)intervideo(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: [mail] Re: Windows Build System |
Date: | 2003-01-31 03:06:36 |
Message-ID: | 3E39E83C.E713259A@Yahoo.com |
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Most variants of Unix are known to be pretty stable. Most variants of
> Unix are known to follow the Unix standard semantics for sync() and
> fsync(). I think we are entirely justified in doubting whether Windows
> is a suitable platform for PG, and in wanting to run tests to find out.
> Yes, we are holding Windows to a higher standard than we would for a
> Unix variant.
>
> Partly this is a matter of wanting to protect Postgres' reputation.
> Just on sheer numbers, if there is a native Windows port then there are
> likely to be huge numbers of people using Postgres on Windows. If
> that's not going to be a reliable combination, we need to know it and
> tell them so up-front. Otherwise, people will be blaming Postgres, not
> Windows, when they lose data. It's an entirely different situation from
> whether Postgres-on-Joe-Blow's-Unix-Variant loses data, first because of
> visibility, and second because of the different user base. Am I being
> paranoid to suspect that the average Postgres-on-Windows user will be
> less clueful than the average Postgres-on-Unix user? I don't think so.
Assuming all your assumptions are right, why the hell is Oracle's and MS
SQL-Server's reputation that bloody good? And what about MySQL? They all
have a native Windows (sup)port for some time ... didn't harm their
reputation. I think that we got in bed with this ugly Cybill ... er ...
Cygwin thing had cost us more reputation than the sucking performance of
pre-7 releases all together.
Jan
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