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Re: Draft bylaws are now available

From: "Selena Deckelmann" <selenamarie(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Josh Berkus" <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: pgus-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Draft bylaws are now available
Date: 2008-06-10 06:43:42
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On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:

> "If additional Director positions are added, such Directors will be
> allocated to those who terms expire at the annual meeting and those whose
> terms expire at the semi-annual meeting for the purpose of maintaining
> approximately equal groups of Directors whose terms expire at the annual
> meeting and the semi-annual meeting of the members."
>
> This is the only place electing Directors at the semi-annual meeting are
> mentioned until the sunset of the organizing directors.    The result would
> that for the first couple years of the organization, all directors will be
> elected at the annual meeting only until the number is increased.
>  Alternately, it could result in an additional Board member being added with
> a term of one month.  I think this is a good example of something that
> shouldn't be defined in the bylaws.  It really needs to be up to the sitting
> board to make term decisions of appointees and additional board seats based
> on several factors.

I think this is a really good point. Also, I dislike the legalese.
Some of this problem may be resolved when we alter the terms of the
Directors and streamline the election process.

> "Notwithstanding the standard term in Section 3.1 above, the initial term
> for each of the three initial appointed Directors is approximately eighteen
> months, ending at the semi-annual member meeting in 2010"

I don't know that we need the eighteen month term in the bylaws, but I
think we agree about 2010.

One thing - I don't like the idea of having the election at different
times of year.  I think this will be confusing for members. I had
originally raised an objection about the location, but eventually, I
think it would be great to have our meetings in different places
across the country.  But for the first few years, I think we need to
stay in one or two places.

> That'll get the initial board running on a 4/3 election split, give the
> organizing directors some additional time, but not chain the organization to
> the organizing directors regardless of what they do.

I like that.

-selena


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Selena Deckelmann
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