Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> (BTW, the patch seems
>> a bit schizoid about whether checkpoint_rate is int or float.)
> Yeah, I've gone back and forth on the data type. I wanted it to be a
> float, but guc code doesn't let you specify a float in KB, so I switched
> it to int.
I seriously question trying to claim that it's blocks at all, seeing
that the *actual* units are pages per unit time. Pretending that it's
a memory unit does more to obscure the truth than document it.
>> What's bugging me about this is that we are either going to be writing
>> at checkpoint_rate if ahead of schedule, or max possible rate if behind;
>> that's not "smoothing" to me, that's introducing some pretty bursty
> That sounds a lot more complex. The burstiness at that level shouldn't
> matter much. The OS is still going to cache the writes, and should even
> out the bursts.
With the changes you're proposing here, the burstiness would be quite
severe. OTOH, if writes_per_nap is always 1, then bufmgr is going to
recheck the delay situation after every page, so what you have actually
tested is as granular as it could get.
>> And checkpoint_rate really needs to be named checkpoint_min_rate, if
>> it's going to be a minimum. However, I question whether we need it at
> Hmm. With bgwriter_delay of 200 ms, and checkpoint_min_rate of 512 KB/s,
> using the non-broken formula above, we get:
> (512*1024/8192) * 200 / 1000 = 12.8, truncated to 12.
> So I think that's fine.
"Fine?" That's 12x the value you have actually tested. That's enough
of a change to invalidate all your performance testing IMHO. I still
think you've not demonstrated a need to expose this parameter.
regards, tom lane
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