Re: Further pg_upgrade analysis for many tables

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Subject: Re: Further pg_upgrade analysis for many tables
Date: 2012-11-12 16:11:03
Message-ID: 20121112161103.GB14488@momjian.us
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On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:50:34AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > Are sure the server you are dumping out of is head?
>
> I experimented a bit with dumping/restoring 16000 tables matching
> Bruce's test case (ie, one serial column apiece). The pg_dump profile
> seems fairly flat, without any easy optimization targets. But
> restoring the dump script shows a rather interesting backend profile:
>
> samples % image name symbol name
> 30861 39.6289 postgres AtEOXact_RelationCache
> 9911 12.7268 postgres hash_seq_search
> 2682 3.4440 postgres init_sequence
> 2218 2.8482 postgres _bt_compare
> 2120 2.7223 postgres hash_search_with_hash_value
> 1976 2.5374 postgres XLogInsert
> 1429 1.8350 postgres CatalogCacheIdInvalidate
> 1282 1.6462 postgres LWLockAcquire
> 973 1.2494 postgres LWLockRelease
> 702 0.9014 postgres hash_any
>
> The hash_seq_search time is probably mostly associated with
> AtEOXact_RelationCache, which is run during transaction commit and scans
> the relcache hashtable looking for tables created in the current
> transaction. So that's about 50% of the runtime going into that one
> activity.

Thanks for finding this. What is odd is that I am not seeing non-linear
restores at 16k in git head, so I am confused how something that
consumes ~50% of backend time could still perform linearly. Would this
consume 50% at lower table counts?

I agree we should do something, even if this is a rare case, because 50%
is a large percentage.

> There are at least three ways we could whack that mole:
>
> * Run the psql script in --single-transaction mode, as I was mumbling
> about the other day. If we were doing AtEOXact_RelationCache only once,
> rather than once per CREATE TABLE statement, it wouldn't be a problem.
> Easy but has only a narrow scope of applicability.
>
> * Keep a separate list (or data structure of your choice) so that
> relcache entries created in the current xact could be found directly
> rather than having to scan the whole relcache. That'd add complexity
> though, and could perhaps be a net loss for cases where the relcache
> isn't so bloated.

I like this one. Could we do it only when the cache gets to be above a
certain size, to avoid any penalty?

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