From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Cc: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Posix Shared Mem patch |
Date: | 2012-06-28 17:27:50 |
Message-ID: | 201206281927.51062.andres@2ndquadrant.com |
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On Thursday, June 28, 2012 07:19:46 PM Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com> wrote:
> >> On 64-bit Linux, if I allocate more shared buffers than the system is
> >> capable of reserving, it doesn't start. This is expected, but there's
> >> no error logged anywhere (actually, nothing logged at all), and the
> >> postmaster.pid file is left behind after this failure.
> >
> > Fixed.
> >
> > However, I discovered something unpleasant. With the new code, on
> > MacOS X, if you set shared_buffers to say 3200GB, the server happily
> > starts up. Or at least the shared memory allocation goes through just
> > fine. The postmaster then sits there apparently forever without
> > emitting any log messages, which I eventually discovered was because
> > it's busy initializing a billion or so spinlocks.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that this machine does not have >3TB of virtual
> > memory, even counting swap. So that means that MacOS X has absolutely
> > no common sense whatsoever as far as anonymous shared memory
> > allocations go. Not sure exactly what to do about that. Linux is
> > more sensible, at least on the system I tested, and fails cleanly.
>
> What happens if you mlock() it into memory - does that fail quickly?
> Is that not something we might want to do *anyway*?
You normally can only mlock() mminor amounts of memory without changing
settings. Requiring to change that setting (aside that mlocking would be a bad
idea imo) would run contrary to the point of the patch, wouldn't it? ;)
Andres
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