Re: Reports from SSD purgatory

From: <gnuoytr(at)rcn(dot)com>
To: pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Reports from SSD purgatory
Date: 2011-08-24 19:42:05
Message-ID: 201108241942.061270@ms14.lnh.mail.rcn.net
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>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:32:16 +0200
>From: pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org (on behalf of "Tomas Vondra" <tv(at)fuzzy(dot)cz>)
>Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Reports from SSD purgatory
>To: gnuoytr(at)rcn(dot)com
>Cc: pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
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>On 24 Srpen 2011, 20:48, gnuoytr(at)rcn(dot)com wrote:
>
>> It's worth knowing exactly what that means. Turns out that NAND quality
>> is price specific. There's gooduns and baduns. Is this a failure in the
>> controller(s) or the NAND?
>
>Why is that important? It's simply a failure of electronics and it has
>nothing to do with the wear limits. It simply fails without prior warning
>from the SMART.

It matters because if it's the controller, there's nothing one can do about it (the vendor). If it's the NAND, then the vendor/customer can get drives with gooduns rather than baduns. Not necessarily a quick fix, but knowing the quality of the NAND in the SSD you're planning to buy matters.
>
>> Also, given that PG is *nix centric and support for TRIM is win centric,
>> having that makes a big difference in performance.
>
>Windows specific? What do you mean? TRIM is a low-level way to tell the
>drive 'this block is empty and may be used for something else' - it's just
>another command sent to the drive. It has to be supported by the
>filesystem, though (e.g. ext4/btrfs support it).

My point. The firmware and MS have been faster to support TRIM than *nix, linux in particular. Those that won't/can't move to a recent kernel don't get TRIM.

>
>Tomas
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