Re: MySQL-ism help patch for psql

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, David Christensen <david(at)endpoint(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Subject: Re: MySQL-ism help patch for psql
Date: 2010-01-19 20:56:18
Message-ID: 201001192056.o0JKuIG24961@momjian.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> writes:
> > That being said, I don't have much of an opinion, so if you see a
> > problem, then we can forget it. After all, we would need some kind of a
> > prefix anyway to avoid conflicting with actual SQL... maybe "\m"? And
> > that defeats a lot of the purpose.
>
> Yeah, requiring a prefix would make it completely pointless I think.
> The submitted patch tries to avoid that by only matching syntax that's
> invalid in Postgres, but that certainly limits how far we can go with
> it. (And like you, I'm a bit worried about the LOAD case.)
>
> The last go-round on this was just a couple months ago:
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2009-11/msg00241.php
> although I guess that was aimed at a slightly different idea,
> namely making "show databases" etc actually *work*. This one at
> least has a level of complication that's more in keeping with the
> possible gain.
>
> The previous discussion started from the idea that only DESCRIBE,
> SHOW DATABASES/TABLES, and USE were worth worrying about. If we
> were to agree that we'd go that far and no farther, the potential
> conflict with SQL syntax would be pretty limited. I have little
> enough experience with mysql to not want to opine too much on how
> useful that would be, but it does seem like those are commands
> I use right away anytime I am using mysql.

Agreed. I think this discussion mirrors the psql 'help' feature we
added in 8.4. After a lot of discussion we decided that a limited
'help' functionality was the best approach --- the more we added the
less attractive it became.

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