Re: hot standby - merged up to CVS HEAD

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: hot standby - merged up to CVS HEAD
Date: 2009-08-10 23:22:44
Message-ID: 200908102322.n7ANMiL13374@momjian.us
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Simon Riggs wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 10:20 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> > Simon: you have people offering to help with the patch. Offering to
> > help *right now*. Might I suggest that you establish a GIT branch for
> > Hot Standby so that more people can collaborate? Working on it until
> > you get it "perfect" offsite doesn't work; it's going to require
> > adjustment/debugging once it gets to commitfest anyway. Might as well
> > start that now, or it'll just delay application.
>
> Agreed, but there will be some time before that is possible. I'm happy
> to commit to Sept 15 *latest* to do the above. I know what has to be
> done and that's my timescale for doing it.
>
> > Everyone Else: Simon is working hard on this, please get off his back.
>
> Thanks, good plan.
>
> There is absolutely no danger this patch is going to be delayed and
> there is really no call for haste. I near killed myself trying to get it
> into 8.4 and I would like to avoid a tension-fest this time around. We
> have time and intend to take it at a reasonable pace, and spend time
> thinking first, then talking later. Over and out, for now.

Simon, I am sure you worked very hard trying to get hot standby into
8.4, and worked under great pressure, I am sure it is hard to get
motivated to continue that work.

I regret not vocally expressing caution about trying to get hot standby
into 8.4. It would have required Herculean effort with everything going
perfectly, so it was very unlikely to be possible, but rather than say
something, I didn't want to be the bearer of bad news, so said nothing.

I want to try to avoid a big push at the end of 8.5 development to get
hot standby completed, which is why I am trying to motivate anyone to
continue working on it, and I want to get more people to help Simon with
it.

Simon, I am not sure how happy you are about this, but the community
needs your help with hot standby _and_ synchronous replication in 8.5,
so I would like to get hot standby completed soon (hopefully by getting
you help and not killing you), so we leave time for you to help on
synchronous replication as well.

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