From:
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To:
Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc:
Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>,
"Matthew T(dot) O'Connor" <matthew(at)zeut(dot)net>,
Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>,
Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>,
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>,
Guillaume Smet <guillaume(dot)smet(at)gmail(dot)com>,
PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:
Re: First steps with 8.3 and autovacuum launcher
Date:
2007-10-01 22:56:55
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20071001225655.GA9430@alvh.no-ip.org (view raw or flat )
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Tom Lane escribió:
> Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> > We should not allow VACUUM to be concurrent with either CREATE INDEX or
> > ANALYZE, but then thats not the problem here anyway.
>
> I can't believe anyone is short-sighted enough to think that.
>
> The problem here is that autovac takes locks that block foreground
> sessions that want exclusive locks. We've always known this and always
> ignored it, but if autovac is on by default then it's going to be in
> people's faces a lot more than it was before, and they won't be happy.
>
> If you insist on crafting a solution that only fixes this problem for
> pg_restore's narrow usage, you'll be back revisiting it before beta1
> has been out a month.
So you say we should make any job that needs an exclusive lock on a
table to be able to cancel a running autovac job? If we did that,
autovac couldn't do very much of anything.
If that's not what you're saying, I'm afraid I'm not getting it.
--
Alvaro Herrera http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/5ZYLFMCVHXC
Maybe there's lots of data loss but the records of data loss are also lost.
(Lincoln Yeoh)
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