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Re: Using Postgres as an alias

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Derek Rodner <derek(dot)rodner(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Using Postgres as an alias
Date: 2007-09-27 05:46:08
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Pavel Stehule wrote:
> Hello Bruce
> 
> I really unlike this game about change the name. If you get 100%
> support then situation is simple, but you hasn't it. I use PostgreSQL,
> Postgres and I doesn't any strong benefit with change of name.
> Devrim's argument about renaming all packages is really strong for me.
> 
> I agree so official documentation have to use only name PostgreSQL. Is
> technical documentation not articles. And again I don't see any
> benefit. Currently Postgres is well know synonym for PostgreSQL and
> there isn't necessary push it into documentation. Please stop it.

We don't require 100% agreement on anything becuase it is hard to get
anything done.  We are looking for general agreement, and I think we are
trying to get there.

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> 
> Regards
> 
> Pavel Stehule
> 
> 2007/9/26, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>:
> > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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> > > Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > >> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > >>> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > >>>> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > >>>>> But without such changes the alias is only in the FAQ and will not be
> > > >>>>> widely used.
> > > >>>> I'm not sure if this has been thought through to the end.  If we make
> > > >>>> the point that PostgreSQL can also be called Postgres, this does not
> > > >>>> prevent anyone from calling it Postgre or any other forms that we might
> > > >>>> not like.  It might in fact make people think that it has various names
> > > >>>> and you can call it whatever you want.
> > > >>> Well, they are already calling it "Postgre" without our help, so I see
> > > >>> us giving them a clear alternative to PostgreSQL as helping avoid
> > > >>> "Postgre".
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But in the end, they can continue calling us whatever they want and we
> > > >>> can't stop them.
> > > >> Then why are we bothering trying?
> > > >
> > > > Because though we can't _stop_ them, we can certainly influence them.
> > > > Why are you asking such simplistic questions?
> > >
> > > It seemed odd to me. You said, "we can't stop them". So it seems like an
> > > awful lot of wasted effort to try.
> >
> > Not sure why you see this as fatalist.  I can't _make_ many people do
> > much, but I can encourage them to do things, as you have seen.  That's
> > what we are doing here to encourage the use of "Postgres".
> >
> > --
> >   Bruce Momjian  <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>        http://momjian.us
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