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Re: European mailing list

From: Luca Ferrari <fluca1978(at)infinito(dot)it>
To: pgeu-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: European mailing list
Date: 2007-07-30 14:47:05
Message-ID: 200707301647.05865.fluca1978@infinito.it (view raw or flat)
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On Monday 30 July 2007 Jean-Christophe Arnu's cat, walking on the keyboard, 
wrote:
> For those who had not the
> chance to be there, can you point some  URL or mail/text resource that
> may summarizing all discussed points during the Patro meeting (if
> existing) ? If not, does someone can make it on the mailing list?
> (that would be nice to you !) :)

Hi everybody,
I was there that evening and I can provide some information about, even if 
it's harder to remember due to the beer(s).....I'm not able to do a complete 
report, and I hope that someone with the detailed schedule can do it.
The main discussion was of course about an entity that can aggregate and 
promote PostgreSQL user groups, and here comes first troubles. In fact one 
way to make the PUG to survive is to get funds, and the way an organization 
can be non-profit and can get funds (donations) depends on country-based 
laws. The EU association should then be subject to the laws of the country 
where its main site is? I'm not an expert about this and I don't know what 
the answer could be. The point here was to understand if a single european 
entity could suffice also for countries where there is not a national pug or 
not, and what does it mean for each of the above make a pug (from a law point 
of view). In my opinion this should be a point to discuss here on this 
mailing list, also to create country pug more homogeneous; this would easy to 
aggregate them into an european entity.

There was an interesting proposal by Oleg: organization can get funds from 
certifications and courses. The problem in my opinion is that we must provide 
a program that is the same for all countries and, most important, appropriate 
teachers for each country. Unluckily the Oleg proposal did not get a lot of 
success, in my opinion.

In my opinion a first step, besides the creation of local pugs (that depends 
on the capacity and will of each country) is the test of an european network 
related to postgresql, that can help us understanding if we can coordinate 
each other and which results we can get. Also a good way to do this could be 
the exploitation of universities, promoting research about postgresql within 
them. This could help also the main project too. This is just a quick 
thought!


Luca


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