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Re: Problem with recent PostgreSQL relatedpressrelease

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Andreas Pflug <pgadmin(at)pse-consulting(dot)de>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy List <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Problem with recent PostgreSQL relatedpressrelease
Date: 2007-07-13 16:44:08
Message-ID: 200707131644.l6DGi8h21648@momjian.us (view raw or flat)
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Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:19 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Andreas Pflug wrote:
> > > Simon Riggs wrote:
> > > >   
> > > >> EnterpriseDB is 200% faster than an untuned PostgreSQL 
> > > >>     
> > > >
> > > > This sentence is true, even if it is a generalisation: the specific
> > > > workload tested was an OLTP workload. EnterpriseDB ships with a feature
> > > > called DynaTune that makes this so. My observation is that it does a
> > > > good job.
> > > >   
> > > Please note that the website doesn't mention "untuned". We all know that
> > > an untuned PostgreSQL is usually slower than a tuned installation.
> > > Autotuning is a fine feature, but the EnterpriseDB website and marketing
> > > stuff gives the impression that the Enterprise _core_ system is 200 %
> > > better.
> > 
> > I did find that referenced here:
> > 
> > 	http://www.enterprisedb.com/downloads/datasheets/EnterpriseDB_Advanced_Server.pdf
> > 	
> > 	EnterpriseDB substantially enhanced PostgreSQL, the world.s most
> > 	advanced open source database, to create the EnterpriseDB Database
> > 	Server. The product retains the legendary stability and reliability of
> > 	PostgreSQL while performing up to 200% faster.
> > 
> > Notice the marketing-twist "up to".  Like, "save up to 99%" in a store window.
> 
> Lucky they don't let either of us work in marketing then, eh?

Yea, personally, when I see "up to" in an advertisement I assume someone
is trying to deceive me in some way.  It sets off alarm bells in my head.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>          http://momjian.us
  EnterpriseDB                               http://www.enterprisedb.com

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