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Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Kris Jurka <books(at)ejurka(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>,Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>,PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>,PostgreSQL advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement
Date: 2005-05-02 16:48:07
Message-ID: 200505020948.07613.josh@agliodbs.com (view raw or flat)
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Jurka,

> One thing that definitely would be nice would be to be able to combine
> funds from various sponsors for various features.  Alone a company can't
> spring for it, but by pooling resources it could get done.  This is a lot
> tougher to coordinate and unless there is a complete spec in place
> different sponsors will pull in different directions.  Other bounty type
> schemes don't seem to produce results, largely from a lack of cash.
> (Here's $500 for two weeks of work).

Actually, I talked to Opensoucexperts.com about this ages ago and they set up 
an online bounty system for OSS projects in general.  I know that other 
players in the OSS space have talked about similar things; also companies 
like SRA and CMD are willing to act as development $$$ funnels for 
multi-party projects.  

> The problem is organization.  Who decides who gets what money?  What about
> features that are paid for and worked on and not accepted into the
> community codebase?  This was something I hoped the PostgreSQL Foundation
> http://thepostgresqlfoundation.org/ would step in and do, but we seem much
> more focused on advocacy efforts rather than developemnt ones.

Unfortunately, pooling funds for development is not something a non-profit can 
realistically do in the US without a whole lot of legal/tax help to navigate 
US law.    Here NPOs are strictly defined as non-commercial.   It might make 
sense to set up an NPO in another country, such as Australia, where the 
regulations on such things are much more liberal.  More importantly, the 
Foundation is *still* waiting on its NPO paperwork from the IRS, and I really 
don't want to do any major fundraising while there's still the possibility we 
could be denied.

> Well the backup should come up in a couple of weeks. I know that the new
> pgFoundry is being worked on right now. Josh would have a better idea.

We ran into a problem installing GForge.   I don't know if Tom had time to 
work on it over the weekend; if not I'll be tackling it tonight.

-- 
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

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