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Re: locales and encodings on Windows

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Magnus Hagander <mha(at)sollentuna(dot)net>
Cc: Aleksander Kmetec <aleksander(dot)kmetec(at)intera(dot)si>,pgsql-hackers-win32(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: locales and encodings on Windows
Date: 2004-11-11 15:05:22
Message-ID: 200411111505.iABF5Me10995@candle.pha.pa.us (view raw or flat)
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-hackers-win32
Added to open items list:

        o Disallow encodings like UTF8 which which PostgreSQL supports
          but the operating system does not


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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > Come on, people. This was the second time I reported this bug 
> > and also the second time nobody responded to my report. :-(
> 
> 'fraid I know very little about this stuff, so I can't really comment on
> the mani issue.. Was hoping someone else would pick it up...
> 
> 
> > If it is indeed not possible to initdb with a utf8 (65001) 
> > locale, then this will cause a flood of bug reports once a 
> > large number of people start using PG on Windows. Can 
> > somebody try and confirm this problem? 
> > Simply try running initdb with a --locale value of 
> > german_germany.65001, spanish_spain.65001, 
> > french_france.65001 or any other locale you think should be 
> > supported by your system. You will need to do this from the 
> > command line, not from the installer. Does initdb accept this 
> > value or does it replace it with your current system locale?
> > 
> > Unless somebody can come up with a solution, my suggestion 
> > for a work-around would be to remove unsupported encodings 
> > from the installer or at least warn users that their database 
> > will not be fully functional if they happen to choose one of 
> > the unsupported encodings.
> 
> Yeah, that sounds like what we'll have to do if nobody can fix this
> completely. Do you know enough to say exactly which locale/encoding
> combinations have to be removed fromt he installer?
> 
> Bruce - we probably need an open item on the backend side of this. If
> not, then we need at least someone to say we can't fix this for 8.0.
> Removing it from the installer is just a workaround...
> 
> 
> > Last October there was a discussion on pgsql-hackers about 
> > writing locale support for PG, so it wouldn't depend on the 
> > system for locale functionality any more. Is anyone still 
> > working on that?
> 
> I have no idea, but I'm certain if someone is this is definitly not
> going to happen for 8.0.
> 
> //Magnus
> 

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