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Re: Time to work on Press Release 8.0

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>,Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>,pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Time to work on Press Release 8.0
Date: 2004-08-14 16:05:23
Message-ID: 20040814125557.M1887@ganymede.hub.org (view raw or flat)
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Jan Wieck wrote:

> On 8/14/2004 11:25 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Robert Treat wrote:
>> 
>>> The logic that says we are promoting a feature of the "postgresql project" 
>>> (replication/win32) and that we should give people the best tool for the 
>>> job even if it is commercial (mammoth/powergres)
>> 
>> The PostgreSQL project doesn't have replication, Slony is an addon 
>> developed by Afilias and provided open source to the community ...
>
> Wrong!
>
> Slony is BSD, Copyright PGDG, hosted on gborg. And it allways has been. Could 
> you please explain the difference between the PostgreSQL project and the 
> Slony project with respect to property ownership? I fail to see one myself.

Sorry, I wish I could claim English as a second language, cause I 
definitely suck at it ...

The Press Release we are currently looking at ... is it a Product 
Announcement, or is it a State of the Union?

As a Product Announcement, the focus should be on the *product* we are 
releasing, which is PostgreSQL 8.0.0 ...

As a State of the Union, we should be addressing how the project is moving 
forward, including "support software" like Slony ...

I'm not *for* including 'support software' in a Product Announce, which is 
what I thought we were working towards ... what does this new version 
provide.  It does not provide Slony, it does not provide plPHP ... it does 
provide BGwriter, it does provide Nested Transactions, it does provide 
native Win32, it does provide PITR ...

Now, Josh posted earlier an 'brief' of what he envisions as the 'support 
software' paragraph, which I have no problems with ... but I think that, 
for instance, the 'blurb' about replication should at least run something 
like "several replication solutions, with the latest to enter the field 
being Slony-1" ... even that sort of wording kinda bothers me, but 
hopefully by stating 'several', ppl don't focus on Slony as being 'the one 
and only' ...

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