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Re: [webmaster] online demonstration against EU Software

From: "Andreas Grabmueller" <webmaster(at)letzplay(dot)de>
To: pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, greg(at)turnstep(dot)com
Subject: Re: [webmaster] online demonstration against EU Software
Date: 2004-04-12 13:05:55
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Keep the project apolitical? What happens if someone patents "A software that stores and manages data" - PostgreSQL will then be illegal here in Europe - who should pay the license fees? And this is exactly the type of patent we are talking about (and that kind of patents already exist here in Germany, they just are not legal yet).

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas Grabmüller

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Von: "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com>
An: pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Datum: Monday, April 12, 2004 01:11 PM
Betreff: [pgsql-www] [webmaster] online demonstration against EU Software

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> > Cool.  Does this mean we're ok to make the warning on the home
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> More prominent than the ugly, neon green animated Pac-man like thing
> currently on the home page? What percentage of the people reading
> the page are really going to be able to "come to Brussels?" I vote
> for removing it and keeping the project as apolitical as possible.
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> Nobody has yet mentioned how this is the case ... how would such a patent
> affect us?  For instance, there is no EU corporate entity that anyone
> could claim copyright infringement against, so there is nobody to 'tie up
> in the courts' ... would this give someone in the EU the ability to take
> companyA *using* PostgreSQL to court?

I'm not sure if this is the case. However, the distribution would be illegal. The biggest distributor in Germany is SuSE - and they would be no more able to distribute PostgreSQL (and many more things)...

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas Grabmüller

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Andreas Grabmueller wrote:

> Keep the project apolitical? What happens if someone patents "A software
> that stores and manages data" - PostgreSQL will then be illegal here in
> Europe - who should pay the license fees? And this is exactly the type
> of patent we are talking about (and that kind of patents already exist
> here in Germany, they just are not legal yet).

'k, but such a broad patent would see ppl like Oracle, Sybase and several
other commercial vendors in court, no?  I can't see that sort of patent
holding up for very long ...

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