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Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] PostgreSQL installation CD based on Morphix

From: Satoshi Nagayasu <snaga(at)snaga(dot)org>
To: Satoshi Nagayasu <snaga(at)snaga(dot)org>
Cc: jm(at)poure(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org,pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] PostgreSQL installation CD based on Morphix
Date: 2004-01-23 02:08:32
Message-ID: 20040123110832.7d6fc622.snaga@snaga.org (view raw or flat)
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If you want to install to your hard drive, KNOPPIX installation script
can help you.

However, I think "without any installation" is more important for
newbies.

Any comments?

Satoshi Nagayasu <snaga(at)snaga(dot)org> wrote:
> We (Japan PostgreSQL User Group) have just created "PostgreSQL LiveCD"
> based KNOPPIX to promote PostgreSQL to newbies. It includes
> 
>  - PostgreSQL 7.4.1
>  - PHP 4.3.4
>  - Apache 1.3.29
>  - Tomcat 4.1.9 (but J2SDK is not included because of license.)
>  - phpPgAdmin 3.2.1
>  - pgAdmin3 1.0.2
>  - phpbb
>  - Full text search in these manuals
> 
> Screen shot:
> http://www.postgresql.jp/~snaga/shot.png
> 
> If you boot your machine with this CD-ROM, all of them are running and
> you can start web application development without any installation.
> 
> We will introduce this CD-ROM on NET&COM 2004(Feb.4-6) at Tokyo.
> 
> Jean-Michel POURE <jm(at)poure(dot)com> wrote:
> > Dear friends,
> > 
> > In the past, there were several discussions in order to find suitable answers 
> > for MS Windows users willing to install and run PostgreSQL.
> > 
> > Some of you suggested that users should "install GNU/Linux over Windows". Not 
> > so easy for the basic MySQL or Ms Windows user, who need technical 
> > assistance ... and fear to destroy their machine.
> > 
> > Therefore, I would like to draw some attention on the Morphix CD project from  
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/morphix.
> > 
> > Morphix is an auto-bootable Debian GNU/Linux distribution based on Knoppix.
> > 
> > What makes Morphix different is that the project has several graphical 
> > installers and wizards in preparation (written in plain C, using GTK-2 
> > libraries and Glade-2) ... which could possibly be used to install GNU/Linux 
> > and PostgreSQL tools over MS Windows.
> > 
> > You can download a preview CD of Morphix from this address:
> > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/morphix/MorphixCombined-Gnome-0.4-1.iso?download
> > 
> > Except for the installer itself, the wizards are not yet available in the main 
> > Morphix CD. To have a look at them, you will need to checkout from CVS 
> > (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/morphix) and open the files in 
> > Glade-2.
> > 
> > I also made some screenshots here:
> > 
> > - morphixinstaller: once Morphix has booted in demo mode, you can use this 
> > wizard to install Morphix on the disk. Screenshots:
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step1.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step2.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step3.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step4.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step5.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step6.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step7.png
> > 
> > - isomorphgui: graphical distribution maker (select the requested packages for 
> > your distribution and burn the ISO). Screenshots:
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/iso_morph_gui_1.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/iso_morph_gui_2.png
> > 
> > - partitionmorpher: resize partitions on the fly (GTK-2 interface to 
> > libparted). Screenshots:
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/partition_morpher_1.png
> > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/partition_morpher_2.png
> > 
> > IMHO opinion, there is a need to study the Morphix project in more details.
> > 
> > Morphix could be a possible solution to the MS Windows migration problems. It 
> > probably involves 50 times less work than migrating PostgreSQL to MS Windows 
> > (and is a complete different project except for the fact that it could well 
> > bring as much new users to PostgreSQL than a native Win port and is less 
> > risky).
> > 
> > The possible steps for such a project could be (just a guess):
> > 
> > 1) Validate Morphixinstaller, isomorphgui and partitionmorpher wizards. These 
> > wizards are still in early stages of development. They are developed by one 
> > person, who would probably like to receive some help.
> > 
> > 2) Create a wizard for PostgreSQL post-installation steps using GTK-2 and 
> > Glade-2: configuration of hosts and authentication, tuning and optimization 
> > of various parameters (Mainly a graphical interface to pg_hba.conf and 
> > postgresql.conf).
> > 
> > 3) Gather all known PostgreSQL related Debian packages, including pgAdmin III, 
> > PhpPgAdmin, as well as PHP, Apache and report tools (and much more) and burn 
> > Morphix-PostgreSQL CDs.
> > 
> > There could be a "light PostgreSQL CD" as well as a "complete PostgreSQL CD".
> > 
> > 4) Create a single website in 30 languages (http://installer.postgresql.org?) 
> > dedicated to releasing the installation CD.
> > 
> > Based on the pgAdmin experience, there could well be more than 50.000 
> > downloads every month, out of which 70% would be migrating from MS Windows to 
> > GNU/Linux.
> > 
> > Comments and ideas are welcome. I would like to help anyone interested in 
> > becoming the lead of such a project.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> NAGAYASU Satoshi <snaga(at)snaga(dot)org>
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