Re: Upgrading rant.

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Thomas O'Connell" <tfo(at)monsterlabs(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Upgrading rant.
Date: 2003-01-06 18:36:04
Message-ID: 200301061836.h06Ia4m27264@candle.pha.pa.us
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I think you are on to something here. Clearly dump/reload works, and
testing pg_upgrade is time-consuming, so people aren't as inclined to
jump into testing. It isn't quite like testing a bugfix or new feature.

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Thomas O'Connell wrote:
> In article <200301032331(dot)h03NVfc22523(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>,
> pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us (Bruce Momjian) wrote:
>
> > Is pg_upgrade too hard to run? Is no one really interested in it?
>
> As an end-user, I'm very interested in pg_upgrade, but I think it's kind
> of a chicken and egg problem.
>
> Without much of a guarantee that it's fail-safe, I'm not inclined to
> test it. As kind of a hamstrung DBA, I don't have a lot of time to do
> mock-upgrading of my postgres installations. I would imagine there are
> plenty of DBAs in the user community in this position: wanting a good
> upgrade utility but not having the time/inclination to do testing on
> what is available.
>
> For commercial products, QA is usually internal. One of the slight
> drawbacks to the free software community is that more of the burden of
> QA is placed on the at-large community of users.
>
> All this being said, if an outline were posted of what steps to take to
> test pg_upgrade and ensure that everything were working properly, I'd be
> more inclined to take the plunge. As it is, I'd have to do a fair amount
> of research on my own to make sure nothing broke. And that is the step I
> don't have time for.
>
> -tfo
>
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