Re: Default privileges for new databases (was Re: Can't

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Rod Taylor <rbt(at)zort(dot)ca>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Ron Snyder <snyder(at)roguewave(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Default privileges for new databases (was Re: Can't
Date: 2002-08-27 03:45:01
Message-ID: 200208270345.g7R3j1708770@candle.pha.pa.us
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Oh, so we don't modify public writeability of template1 because the
admin may want to disable write in template1 so all future databases
will have it disabled. I see.

So template1 is writable (yuck) only so databases created from template1
are writeable to world by default. Is that accurate?

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Rod Taylor wrote:
> Mostly because a user may explicitly create a database with wanted
> permissions, only to have this 'special code' remove them.
>
> I personally intend to immediately revoke permissions on public in
> template1, to allow the database owner to grant them as needed.
>
> On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 22:27, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I am confused. Why can we modify temp's permissions on CREATE
> > DATABASE but not public's permissions?
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> > > Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > > > Have we addressed this? I don't think so.
> > >
> > > No, it's not done yet. My inclination is
> > >
> > > * Template1 has temp table creation and schema creation disabled
> > > (disallowed to world) by default.
> > >
> > > * CREATE DATABASE sets up new databases with temp table creation allowed
> > > to world and schema creation allowed to DB owner only (regardless of
> > > what the template database had). The owner can adjust this default
> > > afterwards if he doesn't like it.
> > >
> > > It would be nice to lock down the public schema in template1 too, but I
> > > see no good way to do that, because CREATE DATABASE can't readily fiddle
> > > with protections *inside* the database --- the only games we can play
> > > are with the protections stored in the pg_database row itself. So
> > > public's permissions are going to be inherited from the template
> > > database, and that means template1's public has to be writable.
> > >
> > > Objections anyone?
> > >
> > > regards, tom lane
> > >
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