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Re: [INTERFACES] Re: [HACKERS] pgbash-1.1.1 release

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Gene Selkov, Jr(dot)" <selkovjr(at)mcs(dot)anl(dot)gov>
Cc: pgsql-interfaces(at)postgreSQL(dot)org
Subject: Re: [INTERFACES] Re: [HACKERS] pgbash-1.1.1 release
Date: 1999-10-02 15:24:17
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"Gene Selkov, Jr." <selkovjr(at)mcs(dot)anl(dot)gov> writes:
>> I have to connect to any database to issue
>> exec_sql -l database

> A database name is required to connect (by libpq? protocol?).

It's a security issue: Postgres' authentication model is that you are
allowed to connect if your hostaddress + username + databasename match
any of the entries in the pg_hba.conf file (and, depending on the
authentication method, you may also have to supply a password or
something).  Although people often leave the database name as a
wildcard, it's possible to have tighter security on some databases
than others, and I'm sure you can see that that is a useful feature.

So, you cannot do anything, not even list the databases, without having
authenticated yourself, and that means specifying a database name that
you have the right to connect to.

> This can be cured by using template1 as a default.

This raises an interesting problem: we do recommend that in the docs,
and several of the Postgres shell scripts connect to template1 for lack
of a better idea.  But if I were running a secure installation I'd sure
as heck have template1 locked up tighter than a drum, with *no* access
to anyone but the DB admin.  So, how could we allow someone to list
databases without requiring access to template1 and without making any
assumptions about the names of other databases in the system?  I don't
see a way to do it in the current system design.  A possible approach is
to invent a second standard database name, maybe "template0", which
allows nothing but selects from pg_database and perhaps one or two other
operations we deem safe.

> However, the issue naturally develops into a more serious concern: are
> we going to have inter-database queries in any plausible future?

There has been some talk of that, and I'm sure that if it ever happened
you'd be required to authenticate yourself for each database.

			regards, tom lane

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