From:
Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To:
Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc:
Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca>,
PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Make standby server
continuously retry restoring the next WAL
Date:
2010-03-24 23:23:01
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2010-01-27 15:27:51 from heikki(at)postgresql(dot)org (Heikki Linnakangas)
2010-02-10 05:05:55 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-02-10 07:32:48 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-10 09:19:01 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-02-10 13:45:00 from Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca>
2010-02-10 16:53:34 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 10:37:37 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-02-11 12:22:16 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 12:27:28 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-02-11 12:44:09 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 13:06:39 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-02-11 13:28:51 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 13:46:56 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-02-11 14:01:18 from Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca>
2010-02-11 14:17:48 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 14:42:04 from Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca>
2010-02-11 17:04:41 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 17:31:54 from Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca>
2010-02-11 18:11:38 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 18:22:44 from "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>
2010-02-11 19:45:13 from Garick Hamlin <ghamlin(at)isc(dot)upenn(dot)edu>
2010-02-11 18:08:24 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
2010-02-11 18:14:12 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-02-12 07:37:40 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 17:29:33 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-02-11 18:11:01 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-02-18 11:37:18 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-17 10:35:37 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-03-17 10:49:11 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-03-18 14:27:59 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-19 08:52:04 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-03-19 11:37:08 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-03-19 12:43:34 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
2010-03-19 12:50:34 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-03-19 13:28:48 from Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2010-03-19 13:44:53 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-03-23 07:17:53 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-24 12:31:06 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-03-24 13:20:45 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-24 13:36:33 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-25 12:55:42 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
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2010-03-26 05:24:35 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-30 16:28:28 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-03-31 02:01:40 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-25 12:48:27 from Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
2010-03-24 23:23:01 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
2010-03-25 02:08:06 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-03-25 02:14:37 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2010-02-11 15:29:38 from Euler Taveira de Oliveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com>
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2010-02-12 05:38:32 from Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
2010-02-12 12:51:20 from Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
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On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 14:31 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> Fujii Masao wrote:
> > But in the current (v8.4 or before) behavior, recovery ends normally
> > when an invalid record is found in an archived WAL file. Otherwise,
> > the server would never be able to start normal processing when there
> > is a corrupted archived file for some reasons. So, that invalid record
> > should not be treated as a PANIC if the server is not in standby mode
> > or the trigger file has been created. Thought?
>
> Hmm, true, this changes behavior over previous releases. I tend to think
> that it's always an error if there's a corrupt file in the archive,
> though, and PANIC is appropriate. If the administrator wants to start up
> the database anyway, he can remove the corrupt file from the archive and
> place it directly in pg_xlog instead.
I don't agree with changing the behaviour from previous releases.
PANICing won't change the situation, so it just destroys server
availability. If we had 1 master and 42 slaves then this behaviour would
take down almost the whole server farm at once. Very uncool.
You might have reason to prevent the server starting up at that point,
when in standby mode, but that is not a reason to PANIC. We don't really
want all of the standbys thinking they can be the master all at once
either. Better to throw a serious ERROR and have the server still up and
available for reads.
--
Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com
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