From:
Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To:
Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc:
Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>,"Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>,"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>,"Psql_General (E-mail)" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>,PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:
Re: [HACKERS] plPHP in core?
Date:
2005-04-04 20:48:50
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2005-04-02 05:04:48 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2005-04-02 15:34:14 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
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2005-04-02 19:33:32 from "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
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2005-04-04 15:36:10 from Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
2005-04-04 16:01:41 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
2005-04-04 16:30:50 from Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
2005-04-04 19:56:28 from Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
2005-04-04 20:17:08 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
2005-04-04 20:48:50 from Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
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2005-04-05 12:25:56 from Martín Marqués <martin(at)bugs(dot)unl(dot)edu(dot)ar>
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2005-04-04 20:36:00 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2005-04-05 16:00:09 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
2005-04-05 21:49:31 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2005-04-09 01:10:53 from Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2005-04-02 05:13:43 from "Vishal Kashyap (at) [SaiHertz]" <vishalonlist(at)gmail(dot)com>
2005-04-02 05:38:19 from Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
2005-04-02 15:20:14 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2005-04-02 15:49:52 from Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
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On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:17, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net> writes:
> > On Monday 04 April 2005 12:01, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Peter has pointed out that the problem of circular dependencies is a
> >> showstopper for integrating plPHP.
>
> > AFAICT Peter's claim is false. You can install plphp in the order of PHP,
> > PostgreSQL,plPHP which is the same for all of the other pl's.
>
> This is not an install problem, it is a build problem. PHP cannot be
> built (except in a stripped-down form) without Postgres already built.
> If we try to build plPHP as part of the Postgres package then we have
> the same problem in the other direction. We are going to be very
> unloved by packagers if we try to force them to deal with that
> (and remember I work for Red Hat nowadays ... in fact it would be *me*
> having to deal with the fallout from circular build dependencies).
>
If by "stripped down" you mean without postgresql database support then
I'll grant you that, but it is no different than other any other pl
whose parent language requires postgresql to be installed. If packagers
are able to handle those languages than why can't they do the same with
PHP ?
Robert Treat
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