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From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: Satoshi Nagayasu <snaga(at)snaga(dot)org>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL installation CD based on
Date: 2004-01-23 13:14:17
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What do people think about putting an .iso of this on the postgresql ftp
server and/or the sourceforge site?

Robert Treat

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 21:08, Satoshi Nagayasu wrote:
> If you want to install to your hard drive, KNOPPIX installation script
> can help you.
> 
> However, I think "without any installation" is more important for
> newbies.
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> Satoshi Nagayasu <snaga(at)snaga(dot)org> wrote:
> > We (Japan PostgreSQL User Group) have just created "PostgreSQL LiveCD"
> > based KNOPPIX to promote PostgreSQL to newbies. It includes
> > 
> >  - PostgreSQL 7.4.1
> >  - PHP 4.3.4
> >  - Apache 1.3.29
> >  - Tomcat 4.1.9 (but J2SDK is not included because of license.)
> >  - phpPgAdmin 3.2.1
> >  - pgAdmin3 1.0.2
> >  - phpbb
> >  - Full text search in these manuals
> > 
> > Screen shot:
> > http://www.postgresql.jp/~snaga/shot.png
> > 
> > If you boot your machine with this CD-ROM, all of them are running and
> > you can start web application development without any installation.
> > 
> > We will introduce this CD-ROM on NET&COM 2004(Feb.4-6) at Tokyo.
> > 
> > Jean-Michel POURE <jm(at)poure(dot)com> wrote:
> > > Dear friends,
> > > 
> > > In the past, there were several discussions in order to find suitable answers 
> > > for MS Windows users willing to install and run PostgreSQL.
> > > 
> > > Some of you suggested that users should "install GNU/Linux over Windows". Not 
> > > so easy for the basic MySQL or Ms Windows user, who need technical 
> > > assistance ... and fear to destroy their machine.
> > > 
> > > Therefore, I would like to draw some attention on the Morphix CD project from  
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/morphix.
> > > 
> > > Morphix is an auto-bootable Debian GNU/Linux distribution based on Knoppix.
> > > 
> > > What makes Morphix different is that the project has several graphical 
> > > installers and wizards in preparation (written in plain C, using GTK-2 
> > > libraries and Glade-2) ... which could possibly be used to install GNU/Linux 
> > > and PostgreSQL tools over MS Windows.
> > > 
> > > You can download a preview CD of Morphix from this address:
> > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/morphix/MorphixCombined-Gnome-0.4-1.iso?download
> > > 
> > > Except for the installer itself, the wizards are not yet available in the main 
> > > Morphix CD. To have a look at them, you will need to checkout from CVS 
> > > (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/morphix) and open the files in 
> > > Glade-2.
> > > 
> > > I also made some screenshots here:
> > > 
> > > - morphixinstaller: once Morphix has booted in demo mode, you can use this 
> > > wizard to install Morphix on the disk. Screenshots:
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step1.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step2.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step3.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step4.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step5.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step6.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step7.png
> > > 
> > > - isomorphgui: graphical distribution maker (select the requested packages for 
> > > your distribution and burn the ISO). Screenshots:
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/iso_morph_gui_1.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/iso_morph_gui_2.png
> > > 
> > > - partitionmorpher: resize partitions on the fly (GTK-2 interface to 
> > > libparted). Screenshots:
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/partition_morpher_1.png
> > > http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/partition_morpher_2.png
> > > 
> > > IMHO opinion, there is a need to study the Morphix project in more details.
> > > 
> > > Morphix could be a possible solution to the MS Windows migration problems. It 
> > > probably involves 50 times less work than migrating PostgreSQL to MS Windows 
> > > (and is a complete different project except for the fact that it could well 
> > > bring as much new users to PostgreSQL than a native Win port and is less 
> > > risky).
> > > 
> > > The possible steps for such a project could be (just a guess):
> > > 
> > > 1) Validate Morphixinstaller, isomorphgui and partitionmorpher wizards. These 
> > > wizards are still in early stages of development. They are developed by one 
> > > person, who would probably like to receive some help.
> > > 
> > > 2) Create a wizard for PostgreSQL post-installation steps using GTK-2 and 
> > > Glade-2: configuration of hosts and authentication, tuning and optimization 
> > > of various parameters (Mainly a graphical interface to pg_hba.conf and 
> > > postgresql.conf).
> > > 
> > > 3) Gather all known PostgreSQL related Debian packages, including pgAdmin III, 
> > > PhpPgAdmin, as well as PHP, Apache and report tools (and much more) and burn 
> > > Morphix-PostgreSQL CDs.
> > > 
> > > There could be a "light PostgreSQL CD" as well as a "complete PostgreSQL CD".
> > > 
> > > 4) Create a single website in 30 languages (http://installer.postgresql.org?) 
> > > dedicated to releasing the installation CD.
> > > 
> > > Based on the pgAdmin experience, there could well be more than 50.000 
> > > downloads every month, out of which 70% would be migrating from MS Windows to 
> > > GNU/Linux.
> > > 
> > > Comments and ideas are welcome. I would like to help anyone interested in 
> > > becoming the lead of such a project.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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