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Re: PostgreSQL certifications?

From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: Christopher Browne <cbbrowne(at)libertyrms(dot)info>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL certifications?
Date: 2003-11-25 13:42:27
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You usually have a good grasp of PHB thinking, so I'm surprised to see
you post this. In todays job markets PHB and PHR (pointy haired
recruiters) tend to have little to no knowledge about technical issues,
so they rely on "certifications" to decide who has technical
qualifications.  And while your right that there isn't much market for
PostgreSQL DBA's, if one were vying for a php/perl/java/c/c++ programmer
position, the ability to put on a resume that you are a "certified
/somedatabase/ administrator" obviously benefits. Especially if you're a
person who knows enough about postgresql that you could administer it,
even though your primary position might be an application developer. (I
used to work with just such a person).  PHB/PHR types love
certifications, and if your skill is in postgresql, you need a
postgresql certification. 

(Admittedly this doesn't solve the logistical problem of coming up with
a certification, but that doesn't belie the benefits of having one) 

On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 17:07, Christopher Browne wrote:
> cool_screen_name90001(at)yahoo(dot)com (CSN) writes:
> > Just curious - are there any PostgreSQL
> > certifications, or plans for them? I ask because I
> > just became aware of two for mysql:
> >
> > http://vue.com/mysql/
> > http://www.mysql.com/certification/
> 
> A while back, PostgreSQL Inc had some involvement with building
> something of a "skills evaluation" test.  
> 
> But it isn't totally evident how this is _Truly Useful_.
> 
> Certification historically has three characteristics that considered
> valuable:
> 
>  1.  They provide a way of extracting money from would-be advocates.
> 
>      Which is obviously beneficial for MySQL AB.
> 
>  2.  After someone has spent $400 on a MySQL certification, they'll
>      doubtless be a fan of getting some kind of value out of it.
> 
>  3.  In the Oracle market, if you have a certification, it may prove
>      easier to get a job, because employers go out looking for OCP
>      certifications.
> 
> Until there is a job market that's active enough that you can see
> dozens of PG jobs listed that need to be filled, I can't see a
> certification being of vast practical value.
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