From:
Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>
To:
Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
Cc:
"Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>,"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>,PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject:
Re: Thoughts on maintaining 7.3
Date:
2003-10-01 14:49:22
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2003-09-30 16:37:26 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2003-10-01 12:36:43 from "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
2003-10-01 13:14:07 from Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
2003-10-01 13:41:18 from "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
2003-10-01 15:50:14 from Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
2003-10-01 17:58:51 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2003-10-01 18:55:51 from Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
2003-10-01 14:49:22 from Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>
2003-10-01 15:40:23 from Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
2003-10-01 15:48:56 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2003-10-01 16:39:54 from Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>
2003-10-05 13:41:03 from Hans-Jürgen Schönig <hs(at)cybertec(dot)at>
2003-10-01 17:48:44 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2003-10-01 14:44:57 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2003-10-01 19:11:02 from "scott(dot)marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)ihs(dot)com>
2003-10-01 19:31:54 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2003-10-01 19:49:55 from Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
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2003-10-01 23:11:27 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2003-10-03 15:17:15 from Andrew Sullivan <andrew(at)libertyrms(dot)info>
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2003-10-04 15:41:17 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2003-10-05 03:53:49 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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2003-10-01 22:35:55 from Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
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On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 09:14, Robert Treat wrote:
> Maybe I've mis-read Joshua's intentions, but I got the impression that
> this 7.3 maintainer would follow the patches list and backport patches
> whenever possible. This way folks coding for 7.4/7.5 can stay focused on
> that, but folks who can't upgrade to 7.4 for whatever reason can still
> get some features / improvements.
I don't think there's a need for a formalized "7.3 maintainer" -- if
individuals would like to see particular fixes backported to 7.3, they
can read pgsql-patches and post backported patches themselves. If
someone wants to go ahead and do that, I wouldn't complain. (Similarly,
if there is enough demand for a commercial company to do something
similar for their customers, that might also be a good idea).
However, I think it's a bad idea to backport any features into older
releases. The reason 7.3.x is really stable is precisely that it has had
a lot of testing and bugfixing work done, but no new features.
Furthermore, adding more features to 7.3.x reduces the incentive to
upgrade to 7.4, worsening the support problem: the more people using old
releases, the more demand there will be for backported features, leading
to more people using 7.3, leading to more demand for ...
(FWIW, I think that any energy we might spend on a 7.3 maintainer would
be better directed at improving the upgrade story...)
-Neil
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