Re: BUG #15346: Replica fails to start after the crash

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: pgsql-bugs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Alexander Kukushkin <cyberdemn(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: BUG #15346: Replica fails to start after the crash
Date: 2018-08-28 12:23:11
Message-ID: 20180828122311.GD3326@tamriel.snowman.net
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Greetings,

* Andres Freund (andres(at)anarazel(dot)de) wrote:
> On August 28, 2018 11:44:09 AM GMT+09:00, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 09:54:39AM +0200, Alexander Kukushkin wrote:
> >> Why the number of tuples in the xlog is greater than the number of
> >> tuples on the index page?
> >> Because this page was already overwritten and its LSN is HIGHER than
> >> the current LSN!
> >
> >That's annoying. Because that means that the control file of your
> >server maps to a consistent point which is older than some of the
> >relation pages. How was the base backup of this node created? Please
> >remember that when taking a base backup from a standby, you should
> >backup the control file last, as there is no control of end backup with
> >records available. So it seems to me that the origin of your problem
> >comes from an incorrect base backup expectation?
>
> Uh, where is that "control file last" bit coming from?

pg_basebackup copies it last. The comments should probably be improved
as to *why* but my recollection is that it's, at least in part, to
ensure the new cluster can't be used until it's actually a complete
backup.

Thanks!

Stephen

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