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Re: Another theme ... 25th Anniversary of Postgres

From: Joshua Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Another theme ... 25th Anniversary of Postgres
Date: 2011-04-10 14:34:59
Message-ID: 2059919816.3202.1302446099856.JavaMail.root@mail-1.01.com (view raw)
... which is coming up, or is already here.  Can anyone find the date of the orignial POSTGRES paper in 1986?

Anyway, I think we ought to have some slogans for the 25th anniversary, at least.  Ideas:

"25 years of advanced database development"

"25 years of database innovation"

... ideas?


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Josh Berkus
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http://pgexperts.com
San Francisco

From: Rafael Martinez <r(dot)m(dot)guerrero(at)usit(dot)uio(dot)no>
To: Joshua Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Another theme ... 25th Anniversary of Postgres
Date: 2011-04-10 15:49:26
Message-ID: 1302450566.8968.27.camel@core2 (view raw)
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 09:34 -0500, Joshua Berkus wrote:
> ... which is coming up, or is already here.  Can anyone find the date of the orignial POSTGRES paper in 1986?
> 

In the "The POSTGRES Data Model" paper [1], there is a reference to "The
Design of POSTGRES" paper[2], it was presented in a conference in june
1986:

"M. R. Stonebraker and L. A. Rowe, ‘‘The Design of POSTGRES’’, Proc.
1986 ACM-ACM-SIGMOD Conf. on Management of Data Int. Conf. on the Mgt.
of Data,June 1986"


[1] http://www.postgresql.org.es/sites/default/files/ERL-M87-13.pdf
[2] http://www.postgresql.org.es/sites/default/files/ERL-M85-95.pdf

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Rafael Martinez Guerrero
Center for Information Technology
University of Oslo, Norway

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From: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Another theme ... 25th Anniversary of Postgres
Date: 2011-04-30 06:15:16
Message-ID: 4DBBA8F4.5040002@2ndQuadrant.com (view raw)
On 04/10/2011 11:49 AM, Rafael Martinez wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 09:34 -0500, Joshua Berkus wrote:
>    
>> ... which is coming up, or is already here.  Can anyone find the date of the orignial POSTGRES paper in 1986?
>>
>>      
> In the "The POSTGRES Data Model" paper [1], there is a reference to "The
> Design of POSTGRES" paper[2], it was presented in a conference in june
> 1986:
>
> "M. R. Stonebraker and L. A. Rowe, ‘‘The Design of POSTGRES’’, Proc.
> 1986 ACM-ACM-SIGMOD Conf. on Management of Data Int. Conf. on the Mgt.
> of Data,June 1986"
>    

The paper is available at 
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.48.2909 ; click 
on the little PDF logo underneath of "CACHED:" on the right hand side.  
Fun trip back into the 80's.  "The major cost of the storage system is 
the requirement to push dirty pages of data to stable storage at commit 
time"; some things never change.  I'm also amused how VLSI acceleration 
is treated exactly the same way as GPU offloading is now:  as a 
potential accelerator for something, but exactly what isn't clear.

The 1987 "The Design Of The Postgres Storage System" is a more 
interesting read to me.  Much of the transaction model and even VACUUM 
all go back to there.  Also amusing to see them bash on WAL based 
approaches given how things evolved...

-- 
Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com   Baltimore, MD
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