From:
Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To:
Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc:
Takahiro Itagaki <itagaki(dot)takahiro(at)oss(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject:
Re: New VACUUM FULL
Date:
2009-12-28 16:35:24
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 19:45 +0900, Takahiro Itagaki wrote:
>
>> I used "VACUUM FULL" because we were discussing to drop VFI completely,
>> but I won't replace the behavior if hot-standby can support VFI.
>
> HS can't support VFI now, by definition. We agreed to spend the time
> getting rid of VFI, which working on this with you is part of.
>
> If we can just skip the index rebuild, I think that's all the additional
> code changes we need. I'll improve the docs as I review-to-commit.
So, what is the roadmap for getting this done? It seems like to get
rid of VFI completely, we would need to implement something like what
Tom described here:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-09/msg00249.php
I'm not sure whether the current patch is a good intermediate step
towards that ultimate goal, or whether events have overtaken it.
...Robert
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