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Re: Postgres vr.s Oracle

From: justin <justin(at)emproshunts(dot)com>
To: "Jonah H(dot) Harris" <jonah(dot)harris(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Brian Hurt <bhurt(at)janestcapital(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Postgres vr.s Oracle
Date: 2008-12-15 04:05:46
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Jonah H. Harris wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:17 PM, justin <justin(at)emproshunts(dot)com> wrote:
>   
>> Where are you getting the $4 and $6 per transaction for PostgreSql.  i just
>> search through this list
>>     
>
> You won't see it there because none of the PG vendors see a reason to
> spend the time and money officially benchmarking Postgres only for it
> to place last.  Similar to Josh Berkus, I know where it ranks because
> I (and several other EnterpriseDB developers) ran the tests to try and
> get Postgres a TPC-C.
>   
I would like to see them even if PostgreSql comes dead last.
>   
>> Oracle only just in the last year dropped to below $1.00 it mixed bag from
>> $3 to $52 (back on 2001)
>>     
>
> Oracle hadn't run price/performance in awhile prior to that due to the
> cost of the software.  Still, Microsoft has had it below $1 since
> 2005.
>
>   
Does that not prove the point Oracle is over price software compared to 
the  competition.

>> First Step in testing and comparing is agree on a Standard that everyone can
>> agree to.  Second step test the system without cheating which numerous
>> software including Oracle, MS, and IBM have.
>>     
>
> Cheating?  It's an industry standard benchmark.  And, for the record,
> when I compared PG to Oracle on TPC-H, I didn't use Oracle's
> additional features, I did a one-to-one comparison using the exact
> same schema and indexes.
>
> -Jonah
>   

You can cheat at  industry standards,  I see it every day in the 
electrical field where i spend most of time.

The only way to verify the results is duplicate the test and given these 
servers cost from $100K to $10million  its unlikely these test are 
verified by a 3rd party running independent hardware.  From where i come 
from for result to be proven  someone else must duplicate the results 
independently with only instructions  given by the original tester.

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