Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgresql & AMD x86-64

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Martin D(dot) Weinberg" <weinberg(at)osprey(dot)astro(dot)umass(dot)edu>
Cc: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgresql & AMD x86-64
Date: 2003-06-10 18:14:22
Message-ID: 200306101814.h5AIEMT11791@candle.pha.pa.us
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Can you send us a patch?

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Martin D. Weinberg wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> We recently built a dual K8D-based Opteron box running Linux in 64-bit
> mode (Debian 'testing' distribution with newly compiled binutils, gcc,
> and various support libraries for amd64 architecture).
>
> The Postgres 7.3.3 "port" was simply a matter of setting the appropriate
> flags to take of the biarchectecture nature of the Linux port. (that is,
> "-m64" to generate 64 bit code and either "gcc -m64" or "ld -melf_x86_64"
> for linking"). There were no other issues in the compile. In the
> install, I had to re-init due to the incompatibility of pg_control.
>
> All the regression tests went smoothly (the one "failure" was in geometry
> and is due to round off in the least sig figs of the doubles in the Point
> structure or machine zero differences).
>
> I compared a simple query on local data in both 32bit mode and 64bit mode;
> the execute time difference was not significant but this was not a compute
> intensive verification (summing up column values in a table). We have
> some other 32-bit amd machines here; I would be happy to try a few other
> tests.
>
> Good job, developers!!!
>
> On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 18:34:05 +0800
> Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Does anyone want remote access to the upcoming AMD 64 bit architecture,
> > to make sure PostgreSQL runs well on it?
> >
> > It's only via remote access at present, but the AMD guys are willing to
> > help us out here.
> >
> > Regards and best wishes,
> >
> > Justin Clift
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: Postgresql AMD x86-64
> > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:29:24 -0800
> > From: marc(dot)miller(at)amd(dot)com
> > To: justin(at)postgresql(dot)org
> > CC: aj(at)suse(dot)de, chris(dot)rimer(at)amd(dot)com
> >
> > Justin,
> >
> > I apologize for the delayed response. Unfortunately, at the moment I
> > don't have a system available to send you. If I could get you access to
> > a machine remotely, would that be useful to you? I will need to check
> > machine availability before I can promise you anything, but I'm willing
> > to be your sponsor in the AMD Developer Center and approve a request for
> > access.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Clift [mailto:justin(at)postgresql(dot)org]
> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:31 PM
> > To: Andreas Jaeger
> > Subject: Re: AMD x86-64
> >
> >
> > Hi Andreas,
> >
> > Have you heard anything back from the AMD guys in relation to this?
> >
> > We've not heard a single thing from them.
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > Regards and best wishes,
> >
> > Justin Clift
> >
> >
> > Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > > Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
> > <snip>
> > >>Yep, the aim is to allow PostgreSQL developers access to a system
> > >>running x86-64 hardware as needed.
> > >>
> > >>Trying to get ahead of the ballgame these days. :)
> > >>
> > >>>If you have hammer Hardware, I can provide you with a prerelease of
> > >>>our software,
> > >>
> > >>That would be cool Andreas, thanks.
> > >>
> > >>Now, just need to secure the hardware somehow. Personally, I feel
> > >>that an email forwarded from you to the right people at AMD may help
> > >>that significantly. At least, people from AMD should get in contact
> > >>with us to see if something beneficial can be arranged.
> > >
> > > Ok, I forwarded your note and let's see whether they're interested
> > > (there're already a few commercial database like IBM DB2 ported).
> > > From past experience, it might be difficult to get hardware directly
> > > but let's wait for their answer.
> > >
> > > If you don't hear anything this week, feel free to ask me again,
> > >
> > > Andreas
> >
> >
> > --
> > "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> > who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> > first group; there was less competition there."
> > - Indira Gandhi
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
> --
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