From:
"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To:
Cédric Villemain <cedric(dot)villemain(dot)debian(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc:
Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Susanne Ebrecht
<miracee(at)web(dot)de>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject:
Re: criticism about hosting download packages
Date:
2011-02-22 19:53:07
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2011-02-22 08:44:13 from Susanne Ebrecht <miracee(at)web(dot)de>
2011-02-22 09:29:51 from Cédric Villemain <cedric(dot)villemain(dot)debian(at)gmail(dot)com>
2011-02-22 12:16:21 from Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
2011-02-22 13:09:39 from Cédric Villemain <cedric(dot)villemain(dot)debian(at)gmail(dot)com>
2011-02-22 19:17:56 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2011-02-22 19:44:57 from Cédric Villemain <cedric(dot)villemain(dot)debian(at)gmail(dot)com>
2011-02-22 19:53:07 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2011-02-23 11:01:31 from Susanne Ebrecht <miracee(at)web(dot)de>
2011-02-23 11:05:15 from Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
2011-02-23 18:15:40 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2011-02-23 23:33:19 from Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
2011-02-24 22:26:38 from PostgreSQL - Hans-Jürgen Schönig <postgres(at)cybertec(dot)at>
2011-02-24 23:14:37 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-02-24 23:20:35 from "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2011-02-24 23:28:20 from Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
2011-02-25 07:13:29 from Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>
2011-02-25 07:37:10 from Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
2011-02-25 08:04:50 from Rob Wultsch <wultsch(at)gmail(dot)com>
2011-02-26 04:11:56 from "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com>
2011-02-26 05:37:30 from Mike Ellsworth <younicycle(at)gmail(dot)com>
2011-02-26 21:35:12 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-02-26 21:39:52 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-02-26 21:41:10 from Selena Deckelmann <selena(at)chesnok(dot)com>
2011-02-26 21:46:41 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-02-26 21:51:20 from Selena Deckelmann <selena(at)chesnok(dot)com>
2011-02-26 21:54:27 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-02-26 22:01:01 from Selena Deckelmann <selena(at)chesnok(dot)com>
2011-02-27 20:36:15 from Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
2011-02-27 21:55:52 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-02-27 08:45:02 from Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
2011-02-28 19:58:57 from damien clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>
2011-02-28 20:02:21 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
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2011-03-01 07:23:28 from Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>
2011-03-01 11:46:26 from Florian Weimer <fweimer(at)bfk(dot)de>
2011-03-01 13:15:46 from Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2011-03-02 13:35:59 from sad(at)bestmx(dot)ru
2011-03-02 14:08:06 from Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
2011-03-02 00:36:36 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-03-02 13:23:53 from sad(at)bestmx(dot)ru
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2011-03-10 16:01:57 from Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
2011-03-10 16:45:44 from silly sad <sad(at)bestmx(dot)ru>
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2011-03-10 17:07:09 from Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)gmail(dot)com>
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2011-03-10 18:07:46 from "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com>
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2011-03-02 05:02:53 from Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net>
2011-03-10 16:00:03 from Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
2011-03-02 16:25:23 from Grant Slater <postgresql(at)firefishy(dot)com>
2011-03-02 16:36:00 from Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
2011-03-03 17:58:44 from Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
2011-03-04 03:23:07 from "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com>
2011-02-25 02:57:17 from Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
2011-02-25 09:23:25 from Susanne Ebrecht <miracee(at)web(dot)de>
2011-02-25 09:45:18 from Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>
2011-02-25 09:47:50 from Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
2011-02-25 10:13:23 from Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>
2011-02-25 13:59:01 from Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
2011-02-25 06:58:00 from Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
2011-02-25 09:09:59 from damien clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>
2011-02-23 23:31:59 from Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
2011-02-24 22:27:46 from PostgreSQL - Hans-Jürgen Schönig <postgres(at)cybertec(dot)at>
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On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 20:44 +0100, Cédric Villemain wrote:
> 2011/2/22 Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>:
> >
> >> >> Yes it is. It has already been reported and I believe it won't change
> >> >> on the EDB side :-( (not to say that EDB was known to do that and get
> >> >> some unfortunate glitchs in the past)
> >> >> In our side, we can review the dowload area and add explanations for
> >> >> third parties packages ?
> >>
> >> Rah, sorry, it was supposed to be a dot not a question-mark.
> >
> > The only way the EDB page will not be prominent is if the community
> > starts maintaining its own one-click packages that provide the same
> > level of functionality. Nobody has offered to put that effort in.
>
> I am happy that EDB maintain those packages. It is great and benefit
> to lot of PostgreSQL users.
> The issue is not with EDB page being prominent but with the bad taste
> of the registration form which lead users to confusion.
Right but that isn't our concern. EDB should and can do whatever they
wish with that download page. It is up to the community to decide
whether or not how they handle it is reasonable.
EDB *DESERVES* to be able to collect information if a person wants to
download THEIR package. It isn't a .Org package. It is a EDB package.
I would also note that the page automatically starts downloading the
package if you are running any modern browser. It does not require
registration at all and even states that on the page.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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