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Re: 8.5 release timetable, again

From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: 8.5 release timetable, again
Date: 2009-08-27 18:54:23
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On tor, 2009-08-27 at 09:58 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> To get positive results in which you can have confidence, you have to
> know that the testing which was done actually did a reasonably good
> job exercising the code in a way that would have flushed out bugs, had
> any been present.  That sounds a lot like the definition of a
> regression test suite.  Of course, we have that already, but it's
> nowhere near comprehensive.  Maybe we should be looking at an expanded
> test suite that runs on a time scale of hours rather than seconds.
> Actually, didn't Peter talk about something like this at PGCon?

Let's look at it this way: If I were writing a compiler, then I would
have two main test approaches.  First, I would have an in-tree test
suite that compiles a bunch of example code snippets and checks that the
results are reasonable.  Call that a regression test.  It would be
informed by code coverage analysis and previously reported bugs.
Second, as part of my release cycle, I would have an agenda to try to
compile a large set of real programs against my new compiler version.
I would do that during the beta period.  You will notice that GCC pretty
much operates that way.

We have regression tests.  They could and should be expanded.  That's a
developer job, and we can start working on that now.  But this
discussion was about what to do during beta.  And I think during beta
you want to test PostgreSQL against a large set of real applications.
But we could try to clarify how to actually do that in an organized way.

Now, if you want to improve the regression tests, I would suggest going
through the commits since 8.4beta and since 8.4.0 final release and ask
how these problems could have been prevented or caught earlier.  I
suppose a test suite for WAL might be part of the answer, but a closer
analysis might be insightful.


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