Re: Postgres v MySQL 5.0

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
Cc: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org, Lukas Kahwe Smith <smith(at)pooteeweet(dot)org>, usleepless(at)gmail(dot)com
Subject: Re: Postgres v MySQL 5.0
Date: 2006-11-11 00:39:40
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On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 19:26 -0500, Robert Treat wrote:
> On Friday 10 November 2006 17:39, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > Now the question is, do you guys really want to put in that much effort?
> > > I am all for making as much things as easy as sensible. But imho
> > > PostgreSQL is best served if you guys focus on what has distingished it
> > > from MySQL. And that is providing a platform with superior SQL standards
> > > completeness and compliance. And extensible framework that promotes user
> > > choice over one size fits all defaults.
> >
> > I am still wondering why the PostgreSQL *community* is trying to compete
> > with the MySQL *Corporation*.
> >
>
> Because the postresql *corporations* don't provide as many resources as the
> mysql *community* ?

Could that be because the postgresql corporations don't run into people
actually using MySQL over PostgreSQL?

I mean really... let's look at the majority of MySQL users out there.
Now lets look at the majority of PostgreSQL users out there.

If you are a developer and you say:

Well I loaded PostgreSQL and I loaded MySQL and MySQL was faster... well
you are a pretty stupid developer and I wouldn't hire you and I feel
sorry for the person who did.

A smart developer, will review his options. A smart developer knows
there is more to it than just plugging it in and watching the flashing
lights. There are times when MySQL *is* faster and more approporiate to
use than PostgreSQL and vice versa.. but the plug-n-play argument is
false.

It reminds me of the conversation I had with a java developer on
#postgresql . They guy logs on and says,

Dev: PostgreSQL is slow
Me: What seems to be the problem
Dev: I am using Hibernate and my queries are slow
Me: Do you vacuum? Did you analyze? What does the explain say?
Dev: parse error
Me: ??maintenance
Dev: You mean there is stuff you have to do to the database beside
Hibernate config?
Me: /quit

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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