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Re: [HACKERS] Patch for UUID datatype (beta)

From: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>
To: "Jim C(dot) Nasby" <jimn(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Gevik Babakhani <pgdev(at)xs4all(dot)nl>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Andreas Pflug <pgadmin(at)pse-consulting(dot)de>, pgsql-patches <pgsql-patches(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Patch for UUID datatype (beta)
Date: 2006-09-18 21:38:24
Message-ID: 1158615504.30652.15.camel@dogma.v10.wvs (view raw or flat)
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On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 16:00 -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> BTW, at a former company we used SHA1s to identify files that had been
> uploaded. We were wondering on the odds of 2 different files hashing to
> the same value and found some statistical comparisons of probabilities.
> I don't recall the details, but the odds of duplicating a SHA1 (1 in
> 2^160) are so insanely small that it's hard to find anything in the
> physical world that compares. To duplicate random 256^256 numbers you'd
> probably have to search until the heat-death of the universe.

That assumes you have good random data. Usually there is some kind of
tradeoff between the randomness and the performance. If you
read /dev/random each time, that eliminates some applications that need
to generate UUIDs very quickly. If you use pseudorandom data, you are
vulnerable in the case a clock is set back or the data repeats.

Regards,
	Jeff Davis


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