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Re: A briefing is needed...

From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: webmaster(at)letzplay(dot)de
Cc: borz_off(at)cs(dot)msu(dot)su, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: A briefing is needed...
Date: 2004-01-14 20:25:26
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On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 14:33, Andreas Grabmüller wrote:
> Thank you for finding it :)
> 
> About the urls: The new ones all look like the following:
> 
> /en/{page}.htm
> /en/documentation/{version}/(interactive|static)/{page}.htm
> 

we need to change /documentation/ to /docs/ but otherwise can we put in
an error handler document that, upon 404 adds an /en/ bit into the URL? 
seems that would catch most of the old links.  (unless we can just leave
out /en/ for the english site entirely and just have the /gr/ show up
for other langs...

> It should not be difficult to create an automatic wrapper for the documentation as version, interactive|static and page are the same. The big problem are the other pages as the page names are not compatible (by design: For example, the surveys do now have the url survey.{number}.htm and so on. Nothing of the output has .php links any more for search engine compatibility and caching ability). So I beliefe we need to create a wrapper for each and every page...
> 

i'm not overly concerned about breaking links for the surveys.. does the
news have to be done that way? i'd be more concerned about keeping those
links working, though again with some magic error-handler tech we could
overcome it....

> For anyone who has not seen it yet, you can see the current status at http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org
> 

Aah... one problem I now recall is the right menu bar doesn't line up
with the right banner add at the top, we should fix that. 

Robert Treat

> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Andreas Grabmüller
> 
> ----- Original-Nachricht -----
> Von: "Robert Treat" <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
> An: webmaster(at)letzplay(dot)de
> CC: borz_off(at)cs(dot)msu(dot)su, scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Datum: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 08:14 PM
> Betreff: [pgsql-www] A briefing is needed...
> 
> > OK folks... heres what I have looking back at Andreas emails:
> > 
> > 1) Some fine tuning on the layout
> > 2) Adding the static pages
> > 3) Translating the pages, news, events etc. into german and maybe some
> > other languages if we find someone to translate it
> > 4) Creating something that handles old links as the new ones are not
> > compatible
> > 5) Reformatting the PHP code as some parts currently look horrible ;)
> > 6) All the things I have forgotten...
> > 
> > which all seems pretty vauge... so ISTM the next step is for someone to
> > create an actual working copy of the site; maybe dave at
> > devel.postgresql.org and a couple others at home; so we can do some
> > testing on it and see what needs to be fixed. (#1 #2 #6)
> > 
> > I think #3 can wait till we go live ie. once its up people can begin
> > working on translations. 
> > 
> > #5 is another behind the scenes kind of thing, so unless we turn up
> > anything overly crusty I think this can be done once released (and might
> > have to be depending on layout changes needed)
> > 
> > #4 might be tricky... how different are the urls? we'll need to try to
> > work something out for that.
> > 
> >  
> > does this sound workable to everyone?
> > 
> > Robert Treat
> > 
> > On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 14:00, Andreas Grabmüller wrote:
> > > If you mean me, my name is Andreas :)
> > > 
> > > However, I must confess I didn't do anything on the code since we started the discussion on the Layout/XHTML/CSS (I think that was mid November). This also means the old todo list I posted that time should be even current. I currently can't find it, does anyone have it archived?
> > > 
> > > The last summary was the code is working (well, it was, it may need some updates now as the main code has been changed) and we now need the new layout before we can import the pages...
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry I wasn't very active on this list the last months (but I'm of course reading it), I'm very busy (and everytime one project ends I get two new projects :( so I don't think I can spend much time on this for the next two to three months, I'm sorry).
> > > 
> > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> > > Andreas Grabmüller
> > > 
> > > ----- Original-Nachricht -----
> > > Von: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
> > > An: Alexey Borzov <borz_off(at)cs(dot)msu(dot)su>
> > > CC: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
> > > Datum: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 07:21 PM
> > > Betreff: [pgsql-www] A briefing is needed...
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Alexey Borzov wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>1) Is anyone actively working on website right now? I mean not "is a
> > > > > >>member of website team", but actively working?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>From my understanding, any work on the web site is on hold until
> > > > > > Adrian(sp?) finishes the work he's doing on internationalization ...
> > > > >
> > > > >  From my understanding, his work is in the portal directory of pgweb,
> > > > > and the last commit there was 2 months ago...
> > > > 
> > > > that doesn't mean anything if he is working on his home computer, but, I
> > > > think that Adrian just pop'd up recently wondering what was outstanding,
> > > > so I think he's looking for feedback on what he's done ...
> > > > 
> > > > right now, I think Adrian might be on Chapter 2, while the rest of us
> > > > still think we're on Chapter 1 ... the fun part of collaborative work,
> > > > making sure everyone knows where everyone else is sitting :)
> > > > 
> > > > ----
> > > > Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
> > > > Email: scrappy(at)hub(dot)org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664
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